This is the most important interview on climate action I’ve ever listened to. If you are contemplating taking action to reduce your carbon footprint, do not fail to listen to this Vox podcast. Take heart there is much we can do. Saul Griffith is a man of many many accomplishments. Among them he was named a MacArthur genius in 2007 - quoting therefrom “Saul Griffith is an inventor whose innovations span industrial design, technology, and science education. Through a variety of endeavors at MIT and as a principal in Squid Labs, Griffith demonstrates his boundless energy for inventing across diverse disciplines in the global public interest.” And in conversation with Klein we explains why he believes we have all we need at hand to solve the climate crisis. Ezra Klein did a series of interviews on climate - all excellent. He has recently joined the New York Times. This is not new -just important.